Show notes

Nir Eyal joins us to discuss some of the ideas and topics covered in his two books, Hooked and Indistractable.
In his work with digital ethics Per has frequently pushed back against attempts to influence people without their informed consent. And on UX Podcast we frequently discuss the dangers of oblivious design.

In September, Per wrote a harsh blog post critiquing what he perceives to be negligent messaging in the book Hooked – How to Create Habit-Forming Products alongside the new book Indistractable: How to Control Your Attention and Choose Your Life.

Some days later the author of these two books, Nir Eyal, reached out about being on UX Podcast for a chance to share more on his thinking. We happily invited him on to provide more details on the intent of his books.

In this interview Nir Eyal describes both how he considers Hooked to provide companies with a tool for exercising primarily benevolent influence, and how his other book Indistractable is now needed to help people manage the abundance of detrimental influence we are subjected to every day.

(Listening time: 41 minutes, transcript)